INFORMATION ON STEVENSTON AND CHILE (LINK TO NEW ZEALAND)
The file below was compiled by Campbell Murdoch. The interesting thing about it is that it comes from a different set of sources than those used earlier by researchers.
Information on the Chile venture is mentioned in A short history of John Shaw 1845
Dear Robert,
I’m not sure whether we have been in touch before but I was interested to read your information. We are related as my aunt Margaret Grant Murdoch married David Shaw in Glenbuck, Muirkirk on 4th October 1929. My cousins Tom and Robert Shaw are more closley related to you. However my second cousin mary Kelso Kilpatrick married John Shaw in 1839 in Stevenston.
I have NZ connections as we arrived in Dunedin in 1983 when I was appointed to the Chair of General Practice at the University of Otago in Dunedin. I am now here in WA but we still have a house in Dunedin and will come back there next year. My son John is Deputy Principal at Newlands College and my daughetr Jo is with the Crown Prosecutors in Wellington.
I wonder if you had caught up with the Shaw’s earlier trip from Stevenston to Chile. My research told me that Jennet Shaw, daughter of David Shaw and Janet McIntosh was born in Lota, Chile on 13 Dec 1854. The family returned to Stevenston in Ayrshire, Scotland by 1861 and later emigrated to New Zealand. I contacted Judith Hudson Beattie (a.k.a. Judy Valenzuela) who was researching this episode and yesterday received this email
Dear Dr. Murdoch,
I am delighted to hear from you. As you can see from the attached information that I have located on the Shaw family, I had not previously had much success. The surgeon's log named one of the children, David, and the signed agreement made in Crosshouse gave the ages, but this information adds the mother's name. Do you also know the names of the other children and those of Thomas Shaw's family and the relationship of the two families? Did the family continue in the coal mining industry in New Zealand? Do you have any photographs of the family at that time (the 1850s)? I would be very interested to know anything else you can add and any family stories about the voyage and about conditions in Chile. I am assuming that you are descended from the Shaws - perhaps you can confirm that.
I am leaving for Chile on 20 February and will be visiting with a descendant of the Miller and Watt families while I am there. I have also traced some of the families through the US and UK censuses, but it is a daunting task with about 40 Ayrshire families and another 40 Norwegians.
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my request for information. If you would like more information about the ship (the Colinda) and the voyage, please let me know. I can give you the quotes about the Shaws, if that would be of interest.
Yours sincerely,
Judy
Judith Hudson Beattie (a.k.a. Judy Valenzuela)
600-237 Wellington Crescent
Winnipeg MB R3M 0A1
204-475-6666
I will read your research with interest.
Campbell
John Campbell Murdoch MD PhD FRCGP FRNZCGP FRACGP FACRRM
campbell.murdoch@uwa.edu.au
More interesting info about the wild Ayrshire Shaws!
Campbell
From: Judith
Hudson Beattie Valenzuela [mailto:jhbval@mts.net]
Sent: Friday, 2 February
2007 2:36 PM
To: Campbell Murdoch
Subject: Re: Shaws in Lota
I am writing a book about the Colinda and her voyage in 1853-4, so I have a great deal of information available. However, I will give you a brief summary. If you have other specific questions, I will try to answer them.
You mention "others of my Ayrshire mining families." If you can give me the names, I will check to see if they were included on the trip.
David Shaw and Thomas Shaw (with his mark), on 13 July 1853 at Crosshouse, Ayrshire, signed an engagement with James Finlay and David Landale, recruiting agents for the Hudson's Bay Company, to serve three years in the coal mines in Nanaimo on Vancouver Island. All the miners and their families came by rail to London accompanied by Mr. Finlay, with their luggage on a separate car. This journey was difficult, with about 43 miners, 31 wives and 73 children. The Colinda was waiting at the East India dock, and they left on the 4th of August along with 40 Norwegian labourers, the crew and officers, and cabin passengers Mrs Leigh and her three children off to join her husband, and Miss Forsyth from Thurso, Caithness. The Colinda was a 581 Ton barque with three masts, 119.5' x 26.4' and 20' deep, and two decks and a poop.
The Shaws were mentioned in the Surgeon's log:
Saturday 3rd September 1853: "James Newlands &
David Shaw were quarrelling about a knife[.]
investigation was made & both were in fault."
Wednesday 19th October:
"Upon looking over the mess lists I find, that one family
have been written in two messes viz Thos Shaw & wife &
that both messes have been receiving rations, up to this
day."
Wednesday 3 November:
"This is to certify that 2 months ago my child named
David Shaw slipped down the Hatchway I took it to the
Doctor in his Cabin, he directed me to put it to bed. I did
so, but the Captain came down & rubbed the child over
with vinegar. I sent for the Doctor but he did not come
until he had had his Tea.
Signed David Shaw
I have made this deposition here because I have just been
informed by the man himself that the Captn came down &
rubbed child wh[ich] being contrary to my orders wd lead
the man to believe that I did not do what was necessary.
Before I sent a reply to the letter sent to me by the
passengers I considered a great deal as to what I shd
say." [Note: At this point the dispute between the Captain
and the Surgeon had become an open conflict JHB]
After a difficult trip with high seas and cold as they rounded the Horn of South America, on November 3 they requested that the ship approach land for provisions and to consult with diplomatic representatives. The Captain accused them of mutiny and kept them on the ship in Corral, the harbour of Valdivia, from 7 November to 13 December, when they were escorted to Valparaiso for a trial.
Friday, 18th November [at anchor in Corral harbour]:
"To day I have discovered that four women are affected
with scurvy Mrs David Shaw, Mrs Seal, Mrs Ewart, &
Mrs Lewis. The three former yesterday only had their
gums red & swelled & injected but to day they
have several spots of extravasated blood on their lower
extremities combined with a heaviness, languor, great
depression of nervous energy & listlessness about motion,
with a confinement of their bowels and a sallowness of
their complexion the latter has all these symptoms, but
complicated with diarrhea all four of them have suckling
Infants. The plan of treatment I adopt is this.
To wean all the Infants, To give them (the Mothers) a
wineglassful of Lime juice with 10 grains of Nitrate of
Potass dissolved in it three times a day. Three
tablespoonsful of Brandy one hour before dinner, half a
pint of Stout with two grains of Sulphate of Iron dissolved
in it with their dinner, Some alum wash to rinse the mouth
out to obviate the sponginess of the gums, & the sores on
the leg of Mrs Lewis to [be] treated thus during the day
to be kept wetted with Nitric acid Lotion made by mixing
1 drachon of strong nitric acid to 40 oz Water. & at night
covered by some spermaceti ointment.
I have very sanguine hopes that this plan of treatment will
be successful, but the fresh water is still very foul in fact it
has been bad throughout the passage some casks have
been good but now that it is getting nearly done it is very
bad.
I am very anxious to express myself fully in regard to the
cause of this malady. I do not believe it to be caused by
salt meat because I feel confident that they have had
sufficient preserved meat & Potatoes with Lime juice
every other day, but I am fully persuaded that it has been
produced entirely by a collection of causes either of which
in my opinion would be sufficient to impoverish the state
of the blood to that extent so as to produce such a
disorder as scurvy, & these causes have been gradually
accumulating until the last & worst of all has brought the
disease out[.] In the first place the cold weather round
cape horn, & the consequent detainingment [sic] of the
passengers below, the closeness of the atmosphere they
were breathing & the want of proper warmth; for the
stoves they had were not sufficient to make them
comfortable, the sulphurous exhalation was worse than
the cold 2ndly The leakage of the upper deck making
their berths wet & their lying in them for a length of time
producing colds rheumatism & throwing them out of
health. 3rdly & lastly the state of alarm & suspense they
have all been constantly subject to this last month coupled
with the incessant wet we have had since we have been in
port."
Sunday 20 November: "Two more cases of scurvy have
made their appearance to day viz Mrs Dickie & David
Shaw. I placed them on the same treatment as the
others."
Tuesday 6 December: "When I appeared on deck this
morning I was informed that several men had left the
vessel clandestinely & without leave, Their names were
Jens Vidoe, Paschon, Pedersen A, Pedersen B, Fredk
Pedersen, H.P. Berentzen, Christn Ericksen, Lars
Julesen, Slater, Pearson, Brown, McIntyre, Sutherland,
Sim, Gorbold, Ewart, Thos Shaw, Robt Murray,
McMurtrie, Newlands, Foster, Wm Hunter, Peter
Hunter,Rich, Marten ."
When the case was dropped against the miners, they refused to go back on board the Colinda, and wandered the port of Valparaiso, destitute, until they were hired by Thomas Garland for the new coal mines in Lota.
I would be interested in your medical reaction to the treatment proposed by the surgeon for the scurvy suffered by the Shaws and others on the ship.
Judy
Judith
Hudson Beattie (a.k.a. Judy Valenzuela)
600-237 Wellington Crescent
Winnipeg MB R3M 0A1
204-475-6666
jhbval@mts.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Campbell Murdoch
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: Shaws in Lota
I have found interesting information about the Shaw family’s move to NZ. I have sent the page to you.
I would be interested in info about the ship and the voyage. Also it would be interesting to know if any others of my Ayrshire mining families were involved. I believe that originally they were bound for British Columbia.
Campbell
From: Judith Hudson Beattie Valenzuela [mailto:jhbval@mts.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 10:59 AM
To: Campbell Murdoch
Subject: Re: Shaws in Lota
Dear Dr. Murdoch,
I am delighted to hear from you. As you can see from the attached information that I have located on the Shaw family, I had not previously had much success. The surgeon's log named one of the children, David, and the signed agreement made in Crosshouse gave the ages, but this information adds the mother's name. Do you also know the names of the other children and those of Thomas Shaw's family and the relationship of the two families? Did the family continue in the coal mining industry in New Zealand? Do you have any photographs of the family at that time (the 1850s)? I would be very interested to know anything else you can add and any family stories about the voyage and about conditions in Chile. I am assuming that you are descended from the Shaws - perhaps you can confirm that.
I am leaving for Chile on 20 February and will be visiting with a descendant of the Miller and Watt families while I am there. I have also traced some of the families through the US and UK censuses, but it is a daunting task with about 40 Ayrshire families and another 40 Norwegians.
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my request for information. If you would like more information about the ship (the Colinda) and the voyage, please let me know. I can give you the quotes about the Shaws, if that would be of interest.
Yours sincerely,
Judy
Judith Hudson Beattie (a.k.a. Judy Valenzuela)
600-237 Wellington Crescent
Winnipeg MB R3M 0A1
204-475-6666
jhbval@mts.net----- Original Message -----
From: Campbell Murdoch
To: jhbval@mts.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:40 AM
Subject: Shaws in Lota
My research has shown that Jennet Shaw, daughter of David Shaw and Janet McIntosh was born in Lota on 13 Dec 1854. The family returned to Stevenston in Ayrshire, Scotland by 1861 and later emigrated to New Zealand.
Campbell
John Campbell Murdoch MD PhD FRCGP FRNZCGP FRACGP FACRRM
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